Friday, September 09, 2005

Andy Hertzfeld On NerdTV

Bob Cringely just published the first in series of interviews on NerdTV (hey there is no MPEG-4 codec in Windows Media Player - luckily Quicktime supports MPEG-4). He talks with original Macintosh system software programmer Andy Hertzfeld about Apple, the Mac project, Steve Jobs, Open Source and how he just recently excavated the old sourcecode of Bill Atkinson's MacPaint for Donald Knuth. Today Andy Hertzfeld runs Folklore.Org - "Anecdotes about the development of Apple's original Macintosh computer, and the people who created it".

At one point they refer to Cringely's 1996 TV-series "Triumph Of The Nerds", where Steve Jobs accused Microsoft of having "no taste" (his words actually were "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way.").

So after "Triumph Of The Nerds" aired, Steve Jobs came over to Andy Hertzfeld's place, and called Bill Gates to apologize. When Steve Jobs says sorry to Bill Gates, it goes like "Bill I'm calling to apologize. I saw the documentary and I said that you had no taste. Well I shouldn't have said that publicly. It's true, but I shouldn't have said it publicly". And Bill Gates responds saying "Steve, I may have no taste, but that doesn't mean my entire company has no taste". This little episode tells us a lot about those two characters, doesn't it?